i still thinkit isnt really about the arts but about the fighter
but still i think y'all say about karate sux
if you fight against a Kyokushin karate guy u will get ass kicked
just check Kyokushin vs kickbox or something they kick there ass
and for all other martial arts doesnt matter always some arts better at some points.. also bjj owns most of hitting arts like tkd/karate/boxing/kickboxing cause they cant fight at ground level..