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    Thread about nothing

    So, what is nothing? Well according to wikipedia it is:
    Nothing is a concept that describes the lack or absence of anything at all. Colloquially, the concept is often used to indicate the lack of anything relevant or significant, or to describe a particularly unimpressive thing, event, or object. It is contrasted with something and everything. There is also the concept in Eastern philosophy which is called 'nothingness' It is characterized by an egoless state of being, in which one can see the true relation of one's own small part in the cosmos.Contents [hide]
    1 Language and logic
    2 Philosophy
    3 Science
    4 See also
    5 Further reading
    6 References


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    Language and logic

    Grammatically, the word "nothing" is an indefinite pronoun, which means that it refers to something. This can lead to confusion, "Nothing" is a concept, concepts are things, so the concept of "Nothing" is a thing. This fallacy is neatly demonstrated by the old joke, if nothing is worse than the Devil, and nothing is greater than God, then the Devil must be greater than God:

    Devil > (nothing), (nothing) > God

    Devil > (nothing) > God

    Devil > God

    The simplest meaning is: no thing. So if "Nothing" is said to be in a particular place, have a particular quality, then it is meant that "no thing" is there, or has this or that quality. The word "naught" also has this same meaning.

    Clauses can often be restated to avoid the appearance that "nothing" possesses an attribute: "There is nothing in the basement" can be restated as "There is not one thing in the basement". "Nothing is missing" can be restated as "everything is present". Conversely, many fallacious conclusions follow from treating "nothing" as a noun.

    Modern logic made it possible to articulate these points coherently as intended, and many philosophers hold that the word "nothing" does not function as a noun: there is not any object it refers to. There are still various opposing views, though: that, for example, our understanding of the world rests essentially on noticing absences and lacks as well as presences, and that "nothing" and related words serve to indicate these.

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    Philosophy

    The concept of 'nothing' has been studied throughout history by philosophers and theologians; many have found that careful consideration of the notion can easily lead to the logical fallacy of reification. (If one does not believe that nothing is no thing.) However, many of the existentialist and postmodern philosophers and writers would argue that Nothing is actually the lack or absence of something, rather than of anything.[citation needed]

    The understanding of 'nothing' varies widely between cultures, especially between Western and Eastern cultures and philosophical traditions. For instance, Shunyata (emptiness), unlike "nothingness", is considered a state of mind in some forms of Buddhism (see Nirvana, mu, and Bodhi. See also soku hi in Kyoto school). Achieving 'nothing' as a state of mind in this tradition allows someone to be totally 'focused' (in the Western sense of the word) on a thought or activity at a level of intensity they would not be able to achieve if they were 'consciously' thinking. The classic example of this is an archer drawing a bow, attempting to erase his mind as a way to better focus on the shot. Existentialism and Martin Heidegger have brought these two understandings closer together.[citation needed]

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    In mathematics, nothing does not have a technical meaning. It could be said that a set contains "nothing" if and only if it is the empty set, in which case its cardinality (or size) is zero. In other words, the word "nothing" is an informal term for an empty set. However, since two minus two is also called nothing, it could also refer to the number zero.

    In physics, the word nothing is not used in any technical sense. A region of space is called a vacuum if it does not contain any matter. But it can contain physical fields. In fact, it is practically impossible to construct a region of space which contains no matter or fields, since gravity cannot be blocked and all objects at a non-zero temperature radiate electromagnetically. However, supposing such a region existed, it would still not be "nothing", since it has properties and a measurable existence as part of the quantum-mechanical vacuum.

    In computing, "Nothing" (VB.Net), or "null" (Java, C#, others), can be a keyword used to represent an unassigned variable, or a pointer that does not point to any particular memory address, or a reference that does not refer to a specific object. Similarly, Null is used in SQL as a symbolic representation of the absence of data. This meta-data usage of "null" is different from the unprintable ASCII and unicode null character, which has a numerical value of zero — although it is different from the ASCII character for zero ("0"). The ASCII blank character (" ") is not the same as an empty string (""), which is itself sometimes confused with the null pointer in languages such as C. Most forms of assembly language have a no-operation (nop) instruction (often with a numerical value of zero) — that is, a command to do nothing, which can prove useful for blanking out areas of problem code.

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    See alsoBlank
    Big Bang
    Empty set
    Everything
    Ex nihilo
    Existentialism
    False vacuum
    Nada
    Negation (linguistics)
    Negative theology Nihilism
    No
    Nobody
    NOP
    Nothing comes from nothing
    Nowhere Null
    Shunyata
    Vacuous truth
    Vacuum
    Void
    Zero


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    Further reading
    Being and Nothingness, Jean-Paul Sartre
    Church Dogmatics III/3, pp. 389-368, Karl Barth
    In Search of a Cyclops, Fredrick Schermer
    Nothing.com
    Speech - Something About nothing
    The Book of Nothing , John D Barrow
    The Hole in the Universe, K.C. Kole
    The Nothing That Is, Robert Kaplan
    Signifying Nothing: The Semiotics of Zero, Brian Rotman
    Zero, Charles Seife

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    References
    Categories: Nothing | Philosophical terminology | Perception | Ontology | Value
    Lets look closer at this:
    Grammatically, the word "nothing" is an indefinite pronoun, which means that it refers to something So if something is nothing, and anything is something anything is nothing and something is nothing, but nothing is something That makes sense?

    Achieving 'nothing' as a state of mind in this tradition allows someone to be totally 'focused'

    So technically by achieving nothing, you achieve something, in this example full focus.
    But if you have not achieved anything then you have achieved nothing, wich means you have achived something. When you havent really done anything.... (<--- Good to have at school )
    Null is used in SQL as a symbolic representation of the absence of data So null=nothing and nothing=something and in this case something is null... Therefore nothing is something

    Conclusion:Nothing is something and everything is something but something is nothing so there are no things existing because nothing is something
    At least thats what i think :laugh::cool:
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    your sig is scary... but thread is funny

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    Haha Ok :laugh: But it is pretty sick ya? that nothing is something

    LoL my sig is scary!?!? Look at the guy in your avatar
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    Nothing was once questioned by a great mind. Is it the "prescense of abscence or the abscense of prescense"? Furthermore, what is the sound of one hand clapping? What is out there in the universe, at what makes up those vast spaces of abscense? (or prescense of abscense)

    Nothing, put simply, is the deepest, shallowest, brightest, darkest, widest, thinnest, and incomprehensibly empty emptyness, so empty that it is only prevented from collapsing upon itself because there is no substance to collapsae in upon, or no substance to do the collapsing, or even any substance to think or daydream about collapsing upon abscense of prescense or prescense of abscense, which is still utterly and completely absent of form and shape and mass and prescense that is abscent from the existance of anything. In short, nothing is the total, absolute, final, and complete spot that is both positive and negative, young and old, and to sum it all up the opposite of everything in existance, for there is no existance in nothingness. It has even been thought that nothingness itself doesn't even exist, and that the existance of nothingness is so impossibly ludicrous and isnane that if anyone were to actually realize or see nothingness, the entirety of the expanse of the Everything would simply vaporize, leaving even more nothingness in its place.

    Nothingness is nothing, to put it simply. (really, this time)
    Nothingness has only been explained correctly by Zen Buddhists:

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    Agreed (how come you have 1K posts but no rep? )
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    lol who is
    that in your sig anyways?

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    And who is that in ur avatar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serverman View Post
    Agreed (how come you have 1K posts but no rep? )
    Well, I don't know, prolly coz my bad behavior earlier on this forum which I apologize for
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    Hey Loioster! Haven't seen you in awhile. Serverman you don't know who Dave Chappell is?

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