Flaming section: Keep or Trash?

[BlueIsImba]

It is clear that D3S is having a problem with flaming. Being a lot less active then during the summer, I do not have the time to look at every small case of flaming but I will try to actualy go to the core of the problem: the flaming wars section.

Since D3S is somewhat a democratic community, I guess we could make all of the members vote for what they think about that section. I do however think that all opinions are not egual. When voting, please consider everything. I tried to make a small pros/cons of having such a section. Feel free to post more if you find others and I'll add them to my post if I consider them good.

Pros:
-There is a reason why almost all forums have one.
-People can settle down their problems there.
-If you don't like seeing immature kid argue about stupid things, all you have to do is never visit that particular section.
-It keeps people from flaming in other place.

Cons:
-A flame wars section can CREATE problems. In fact, if you do not have a place to flame, you won't.
-There is no particular limit to when flaming gets out of hand and this so, it is hard to justify bans.
-People can settle their problem on MSN/PM so why have such a section?
-Such a section may attract immature members.

[Velocity]

Hey, is there any chance that it was my PM to you that got you into this thing ^.^

[BlueIsImba]

Yes with the 2 hour long conversation I had with Kamikaze . And lol, I just realised you are Endergamer (or something like that!)

Please add some reason, that was just a personal brainstorm =). And if you vote for the third option, please say what would have to be the condition for there are already certain rules in the flaming wars section, but it is clear that we can't justfy any ban/infraction with them for they are ''subjective''

And sorry for the edit lo, i had answered just like in the ''Ask blueisimba'' thread using the ----------- lol .

[Volund]

if we do keep the flame section, it would need MUCH tighter rules and regulations.

suggestions from me-
1- only person who starts flame and person who it is to may post
2- no posts count from flame section
3- appoint a moderator just for flame section
4- dont allow threads to go over certain number of pages

[BlueIsImba]

Originally Posted by Volund

if we do keep the flame section, it would need MUCH tighter rules and regulations.

suggestions from me-
1- only person who starts flame and person who it is to may post
2- no posts count from flame section
3- appoint a moderator just for flame section
4- dont allow threads to go over certain number of pages

As good as those rules sound, I think it can only work as an idea. How could we moderate all those posts? We can't even keep people from posting in other people's application thread....

[Volund]

thats where the designated flame wars mod comes in (please not me ) he sits his ass there, and if someone posts, immediate deletion. everyone else would need to help too of course, but it could be done.

[BlueIsImba]

But then, why couldn't they just settle it via PM? I mean, if only the two of them are aloud to post, then it becomes a bit like a private conversation, aka MSN...

[Volund]

eh, mebe just keep it for fun then, and tell everyone to take their problems elsewhere... except for whole website related things.

[Velocity]

Lol Blue, I was endergamerimte, then EnderBattle, now Zuljian xD, and can't you get in trouble for offensive PM's

[Volund]

yeah, if you get reported to a mod

[Ganom]

I say yes/no because of the annoying flamers going way to overboard start cusing and going all beserk and sending you virus stuff......

So REMOVE

[Velocity]

Thank you XaooaX

[Havok]

get rid of it, its just causing people to get banned

[aLLo-]

TRASH that crap!(sorry iwas just to mad )

[Velocity]

Bad aLLo- swaring ^.^ I been here so much less long than you yet more posts? Hmm?

[Toxik]

trash it... alot of ppl got banned from it and its a waste of time anymore >.>

[The Pope]

It's a Flaming Section. People go there to flame other people for whatever reason they have. If you put restrictions on it then there's no reason to have that, and if you don't have one then it will spill into all the other threads.

I think you should put a warning sticky in there that says Language and certain material usually goes on there. As for banning people for flaming is really stupid in my opinion. Why? Well flaming usually leads to adult language, etc, and apparently people are getting banned for over-flaming which is simply stupid.

But I do think there could be some things that need to be changed. I think that the Flaming Section should be monitored every time there's a new thread to see if the thread actually has a legitimate reason to be made. (Not just there to create spam)

[Sarinha]

threads like "flame me" or sth should be delete...also very defending threads which are really disrespectful!

[Glupus]

i dont care, if we trash it or not. but if we keep it, i will support that volund posted

[Blaze]

Keep it so people can let of some steam,if it goes then people are just going to flame in other threads instead, however if people are really stupid and just flame other people with no reason then mby restrict them from that section.

So i vote "keep it with certain restrictions"

edit: woops voted "keep it" can someone change my vote to "keep it with certain restrictions"

[BlameTheGame]

Trash it, it causes more troubles than it solves.

[KaMiKaZe]

Originally Posted by Zuljian

Bad aLLo- swaring ^.^ I been here so much less long than you yet more posts? Hmm?

don't act like your better than him because you've posted more and ofc i voted to keep it but i find it strange alot of the people who flame there want to trash it.

[Kalbintion]

kami, hes simply pointing out that a simple fact.

[Volund]

Originally Posted by KaMiKaZe

don't act like your better than him because you've posted more and ofc i voted to keep it but i find it strange alot of the people who flame there want to trash it.

and mabey the people who used to post there want it out cause they know how much trouble it can be... i.e... they learned their lesson.

[Blarg]

Hehe for me its like an entertainment thread...honestly watching people that will most likely never see each other in real life fighting on the internet is just retarded....but hehe i like reading shit like dat but i voted to take it away

[Just-Poison]

a way to completely wipe the problem out, is make a rule of no flaming, or u will be warned.

three warns and you get banned for a period of time. TO be honest i think the flame section was put there for a gimmick only, ive used it 3 times. Since April. SO i suggest that d3scene just makes a no tolerance to any sort of flame, which then will either create a lot of less unbanned people, people who want to flame but think of the consequences or people who will do the right thing and not flame. When you think about it, flaming doesn't help the matter it makes it worse, there should maybe be a system in place where a user can alternatively block a user, or have some option to remove a users posts, pms, and name. which wont take effect on other accounts just the account who blocks who.

[Glupus]

or we can do as volund suggested (bad gram>,<) and set a mod there "all" the time. and he sees when it goes to far, and may give some infraktions??

i dont mean all the time, if one or two persons have a "overwatch" there as long as possible. one at day and one at night maybe?? or someting like that??