Why mac?

[hendricius]

My next computer might be a macintosh. However I am not really sure why I should get one and if yes, then which model. What are the advantages of a macintosh compared to a windows running computer?

Thanks for help,
Hendricius

[Poosc]

Well its a difficult decision. There are many Pro's and Cons of both. Let me run you through a few.

Mac:
Pros
1) There's no need to worry about all these viruses, adware etc!
2) It runs well and i've only ever frozen the computer ONCE!
3) The whole design looks very good. For example the dock is an awesome way to keep your frequently used applications.
4) Very simple to use
5) Lots of great built in programs such iMovie which is a good Windows Movie Maker and Garage Band which is very handy for me.
6) It's very fast and you can get some pretty decent specs.
7) A very stable OS and many cool features in each new one.

Cons: (bare in mind some of these can be conquered by running an emulator which can be very successful if you have an actual Windows CD lol)
1) Not many games are available for it.
2) If you're used to having a right click you may sometimes get confused when having to click and hold control to right click! Easy way round this just use a normal mouse!)
3) You won't be able to get some of your favourite programs on it.
4) Just generally the compatibility between windows and mac (without an emulator)
5) Most importantly they are expensive

Windows
Pros:
1) almost every game runs on it
2) almost all programs run on it too
3) More hardware customization available

Cons:
1) Viruses, worms, spyware, adware !
2) not as "sleek"
3) All those error messages!!!
4) OS not as stable. No cool features such as spaces!

Overall, I love macs but you could say they are a little over priced. You do get a solid OS and no worry of viruses. I have a windows computer as well and just get frustrated when using it! Macs can do some very professional stuff and always performs well.

As for model, it depends what you want laptop or desktop? The website as an easy custom build when ordering. Even if you're not getting it off the net you can still use it to see all the options you want with your computer and what it will cost. I'm not a whizz when it comes with all the techy stuff but if you've got the money i'm sure you could get an amazing computer!

[Volund]

As most people know, I am a PC fanboy.

Cons of macs-
Hard/impossible to upgrade certain parts
Freaky looking bars and stuff
weird options with the fingerpad
games don't play
have to buy brand new games specifically for mac

pros-
good for gfx and movie stuff
um........

Cons of vista-
ripped off mac for ui
bsod
glitchy

pros-
8gb of memory

XP
cons-
they are discontinuing it

pros-
everything

[kabarastar]

yeah yeah but...one like hend not good in mac or any one in d3scene why?
1.because in windows you can download and play any game you want
2.you download any program (hacks cheats,others) and use it
I can say mac for people who have works and get computer to work in it he must use mac
and any hacker in any game or other hacks or cheater and gamer he must use windows!!!
window for hackers

[Poosc]

Originally Posted by kabarastar

yeah yeah but...one like hend not good in mac or any one in d3scene why?
1.because in windows you can download and play any game you want
2.you download any program (hacks cheats,others) and use it
I can say mac for people who have works and get computer to work in it he must use mac
and any hacker in any game or other hacks or cheater and gamer he must use windows!!!
window for hackers

lol thats not entirely true. You can hack on a mac! I think its actually safer to hack on a mac as if someone attacks you back they would most likely think you're on a windows so none of their stuff would work. Also the fact that trojans etc for macs are VERY rare and even if u find one it probably doesn't work.

I do agree with you that there are more programs for windows but there are a few people who actually sell all the windows games on a mac (like age of empires etc.) Just because it isn't on the mac website doesn't mean it doesn't exist! If you go look on M M owned then you can see that people have made fish bots, speed hacks, anti-afk's and all that jazz!

[Volund]

And if they find out that you are using a mac you are fucked.

Macs don't have viruses because no one gives a shit about macs.

Here are some more cons about macs

-To successfuly upgrade a mac you must essentially go out and buy a new one
-Many crash more frequently than a windows/linux box (for example, my vista box has crashed once since I got it, and that was due to user error (SLI issues)
-OSX is based off of freeware, do you really want to support a company that has a history of taking open source software (FreeBSD) and turning it into proprietary software.
-Mac users tend to turn into loyal, and idiotic fanboys
-Macs play about 25 game titles, averaging at ~5 years of age.
-boot camp is a useless application
-Windows is more than just a email box.
-Macs are actually not better for graphics, movie, and music design, that is just all that they are almost competant at.
-macs are overpriced.

[tomtom682]

well if you have been using a pc for most of ur life it will be quite confusing if u change but macs only really are like a good work computer when pcs are much better for gaming and also work but it depends what you like in a computer really but i would stay with pc macs are flashy computers and not really to practical but thats my opinion happy that i could help.

[Poosc]

ok lol obviously Volund you know more than me but i do disagree with a few things

Originally Posted by Volund

And if they find out that you are using a mac you are fucked.

Macs don't have viruses because no one gives a shit about macs.

I've heard quite a few people say yea the reason there aren't any viruses for macs is because they are crap But the way i think it is (ofc i could be wrong) but its just its more difficult making them for macs and essentially there are less users so its not worth the effort.

I do agree that you can barely do anything to upgrade them and they are way overpriced lol

One final thing i wanted to say is why is it that if they find out i'm on a mac then i'm fucked?! Is there something that i should be worried about?!
BTW i don't mean to offend anyone with any of this, i just think its nice to discuss

[Volund]

I am a windows user, which is why I am a "little" anti-mac.

What I mean when I say "no one gives a shit about mac's" is that almost no one bothers to make viruses for them due to the relatively small userbase. However, there are viruses for mac.

And there isn't really anything you need to be concerned about (I keep up to date on mac security flaws) except a flaw in Safari, which is well documented on the internet now. It is mostly a problem for windows machines running Safari as a webbrowser though.

I also agree with discussion, we should open up a massive mac vs. PC (linux and Windows) (even though macs are technically PC's....) debate

[Poosc]

I agree Volund I actually don't like Safari. I use firefox instead as i had an error with Safari once so i had to change. I've never looked back! Glad to see that it was a good choice to stay away from it Recently my mac has actually got slower I don't know whether its something i have downloaded or if its just i have too much crap on it. Either way i've got to try and do something

[Tresspass]

What I hate about mac users is they usually say oh well it looks so much nicer, but you can easily add just as nice effects with something such as the object dock software. What I also don't like is how people are always saying macs are better for movies/graphics but you can get just as good if not better applications on windows they just don't come packed with it. If you want the security of a mac then just dual boot linux or something.

[Diesel]

Apple tells you Apple - Get a Mac - Why you'll love a Mac

I like Windows much better tbh...

[Tresspass]

Apple I think in this will be a little bit biased

[Poosc]

lol yeh i would expect Apple to be biased I do actually agree that you can get just as good performance etc of a mac in a windows comp. Modification for windows is a lot better than mac. You can barely get any other hardware or whatever for a mac which limits its possibilities. With windows you have endless amounts of gadgets and gizmos you can addon.
I just think macs come cool as standard but ofc you have to pay the price. If you really look at it you're better off getting all the bits for a windows comp and put it all together with a custom case etc and you'll probs get a better deal for your money .

[tomtom682]

windows ftw

[Mnemicc]

I have a mac book and a brand new custom built PC. For gaming, hands down PC (you probably know), but almost everything else, I use my mac. I'm big into recording music, so with a mac, I can transfer recorded tracks to iTunes with just a click. Personally, I love the way they look. I think for 95% of the population is better suited for a mac. I really only see getting a PC if 1.) intend to play a lot of games on it, or the most obvious 2.) you don't have an infinite budget. My mac book, with some extra bonus's, was around $1200. All together my computer that I built was around the same (not including my 24' HD moniter ^.^). I don't think the jump from PC to mac is really "challening", just click an extra button when you have to right click. If I were you I'd go with a mac book pro, ($2000) but if thats to much, cheapest mac would be the regular mac book.

[Blarg]

Originally Posted by tomtom682

windows ftw

Windows sucks hard.

Macs the way to go for almost everything. You should go for the new macbooks or the macbook pro. I love mine. It never crashes, no bugs and runs adobe illustrator, photoshop. safari and ichat with 2gb of ram. You can't get that in a windows computer and expect it to run regularly. They are a little pricey but it was worth every penny. I had no problem spending all the money I made over the summer to get my macbook. The new touch pad is the best. It's probably one of the best features aside from the graphics and how stable the whole thing is. If you want quality and long lasting computer go with mac. My mom had the old white macbook with 1 gb of ram for a few years and it still runs faster then my windows computer that i've had for around the same amount of time.

I had a reg windows for most of my life and grew up with it and I've had a mac for a month. So far I'm convinced windows sucks.

[Volund]

Originally Posted by Blarg

Windows sucks hard.

Macs the way to go for almost everything. You should go for the new macbooks or the macbook pro. I love mine. It never crashes, no bugs and runs adobe illustrator, photoshop. safari and ichat with 2gb of ram. You can't get that in a windows computer and expect it to run regularly. They are a little pricey but it was worth every penny. I had no problem spending all the money I made over the summer to get my macbook. The new touch pad is the best. It's probably one of the best features aside from the graphics and how stable the whole thing is. If you want quality and long lasting computer go with mac. My mom had the old white macbook with 1 gb of ram for a few years and it still runs faster then my windows computer that i've had for around the same amount of time.

I had a reg windows for most of my life and grew up with it and I've had a mac for a month. So far I'm convinced windows sucks.

Your dead to me....


anyways, back ontopic

Just stick with a linux based on a "normal" PC, it is better than anything out there

[Blarg]

Originally Posted by kabarastar

yeah yeah but...one like hend not good in mac or any one in d3scene why?
1.because in windows you can download and play any game you want
2.you download any program (hacks cheats,others) and use it
I can say mac for people who have works and get computer to work in it he must use mac
and any hacker in any game or other hacks or cheater and gamer he must use windows!!!
window for hackers

Lol volund, macs just better for what i use it for these days.

The way you put it windows is for script kiddies etc. You'd be surprised what real hackers can do with both operating systems. But, real hackers prefer linux.

[hendricius]

Way too expensive if you ask me. For a normal macbook you are paying around 300-400 more - just for the name. I can't support it as it is unix based and selling unix-based systems is a pain in the a** for everyone that uses linux.

[Volund]

Originally Posted by hendricius

Way too expensive if you ask me. For a normal macbook you are paying around 300-400 more - just for the name. I can't support it as it is unix based and selling unix-based systems is a pain in the a** for everyone that uses linux.

how did I not also put that into my argument?

/love open source

[Aloha]

Well let me put it this way...
I have a windows machine.
I will always have a windows macine, and for this reason:

I have many friends that have macs and they all tell me not to get one. Why?

1. They last very few years and then you begin to have massive hardware problems.
2. Once you acquire these problems you will spend hours trying to schedule an appointment with a so called "genius", only so they can tell you that there is nothing that they can do (no matter how small the problem), and tell you that you should fork out another 3000+ dollars, only to repeat the process.

My advice: Stick with windows.

[Blarg]

Originally Posted by Aloha

Well let me put it this way...
I have a windows machine.
I will always have a windows macine, and for this reason:

I have many friends that have macs and they all tell me not to get one. Why?

1. They last very few years and then you begin to have massive hardware problems.
2. Once you acquire these problems you will spend hours trying to schedule an appointment with a so called "genius", only so they can tell you that there is nothing that they can do (no matter how small the problem), and tell you that you should fork out another 3000+ dollars, only to repeat the process.

My advice: Stick with windows.

Explain to me why my white macbook with 1gb of ram still runs like its brand new? It's 3 to 4 years old.

[Volund]

Originally Posted by Blarg

Explain to me why my white macbook with 1gb of ram still runs like its brand new? It's 3 to 4 years old.

He is most likely referring to upgrading a mac....

[Blarg]

Yeah, I'll agree with that. Nice comic btw lol.