undead + orc 2v2 starts plz help

[killerwave7]

Originally Posted by petka

Hey all im wondering what is best starts for undead and orc 2v2 my freand and me cant find the porfect combo maby any1 can put there knolage to help us out.

You can go BM or TC, doesnt really matter if you are really good with both and get dk fiends and go creep lvl 2 fast and then harass one of their players hard core killing untis and what not, the trick is to stall for your t2 and get stronger units and get frost armor wtih lich and stats with spirit link and bm/tc with armor will be unstoppabl elamost, get fast dests if they get casters and make sure u micro well

[THMS]

Seriously, Killerwave is right. But the clue with ud/orc is really simple. REALLY HARD TO PLAY cause a lot of combos can rape it BUT, the clue is the FOCUS heroes. ud/orc is one of the best combo to focus. Coil, nova, net, hex, bm focus if u have CL u can impale..I know it seems gay. A lot of people buy pots of invul..of course it happens but I personally think that its the best way to win with it. And like killerwave said, ud gotta be abble to carry coz he influences the game. He needs to get some wyrms/destro HIGH lvl heroes, NEVER LOSE DK, etc. Don't have many time to explain my whole strat but I might post one soon.

[LaKaiS]

rofl ud orc is playing handicapped imo, ne orc is so much better

[soygamer]

I personally like ud/orc combo the best cause of nuking heroes with tri ud heroes and bm/sh. Heroes go down in like 3 secs. My fav strat is bm/sh grunt raider walker for orc. dk/lk/cl fiend stat destroy. The walker is for anti magic and to link the fiends cause linked fiends with stats to heal and dk to heal is unstoppable.

[YahtzeeFish]

Orc Melee, Undead ranged.

DK+TC Dual Aura mass grunts and fiends. You will run very fast great for harassing. For big maps do this early and they won't have TPs and you can just abuse bases.

Late game, Lust stats, spirit walkers

[killerwave7]

Originally Posted by THMS

Seriously, Killerwave is right. But the clue with ud/orc is really simple. REALLY HARD TO PLAY cause a lot of combos can rape it BUT, the clue is the FOCUS heroes. ud/orc is one of the best codmbo to focus. Coil, nova, net, hex, bm focus if u have CL u can impale..I know it seems gay. A lot of people buy pots of invul..of course it happens but I personally think that its the best way to win with it. And like killerwave said, ud gotta be abble to carry coz he influences the game. He needs to get some wyrms/destro HIGH lvl heroes, NEVER LOSE DK, etc. Don't have many time to explain my whole strat but I might post one soon.

very true, i forgot to mention that once you have lvl 3 dk, and you are about to initiate a fight, if u see one of the other team's heroes at 3/4 health or less, just fire a coil right at him (hopefully u have full mana so it doesnt really matter that much) and let the bm go in for the kill an this should take at most about 3-5 seconds maximum to accomplish. Basically what this does is force the other player to make a decision right away which turns in your favor either way (could be big or not much), it causes him to either teleport in panic and maybe u could finish off any other units or if you scouted, just go and hit the other player and start hit and run tactics or control the map. Considering you are trying to stall, that is the most effective way, you force them to go back to their base, heal their hero, spend another 350 gold to buyback tp and then have to walk whereas if the map has a fountain or possible expo points, it gives u time to setup and control the map, or if you weaken their hero very low (less than 10% hp left) and you have a strong blademaster, he could ww with boots and go and kill their hero once they have tped (only if its close lol) but its very effective if you can manage this with hex and nova (if you ddint pick frost armor first). Killing their hero gives u huge advantage as sometimes noob-decent players will try to run away giving you advantage vs your ensnare and hex or they can try to fight but it is hard to fight a dk lich bm sh combo if you dont have your main heroes to fight with.

[killerwave7]

Originally Posted by Jessrawr

rofl pl0x stop with the long paragraph thingies kthx

lol jess there's nothing wrong with longer paragraphs... ive seen it all the time id rather keep it together than make the post much longer than it should be

[yekko]

Originally Posted by Jessrawr

rofl pl0x stop with the long paragraph thingies kthx

lol whats wrong with his response, it was only 1 paragraph... and you double posted in a couple other threads when you could have just edited

[killerwave7]

no you're just spamming

[THMS]

Originally Posted by killerwave7

very true, i forgot to mention that once you have lvl 3 dk, and you are about to initiate a fight, if u see one of the other team's heroes at 3/4 health or less, just fire a coil right at him (hopefully u have full mana so it doesnt really matter that much) and let the bm go in for the kill an this should take at most about 3-5 seconds maximum to accomplish. Basically what this does is force the other player to make a decision right away which turns in your favor either way (could be big or not much), it causes him to either teleport in panic and maybe u could finish off any other units or if you scouted, just go and hit the other player and start hit and run tactics or control the map. Considering you are trying to stall, that is the most effective way, you force them to go back to their base, heal their hero, spend another 350 gold to buyback tp and then have to walk whereas if the map has a fountain or possible expo points, it gives u time to setup and control the map, or if you weaken their hero very low (less than 10% hp left) and you have a strong blademaster, he could ww with boots and go and kill their hero once they have tped (only if its close lol) but its very effective if you can manage this with hex and nova (if you ddint pick frost armor first). Killing their hero gives u huge advantage as sometimes noob-decent players will try to run away giving you advantage vs your ensnare and hex or they can try to fight but it is hard to fight a dk lich bm sh combo if you dont have your main heroes to fight with.

ya and don't hex when the hero is full hp cause its not going to last long enough and he'll be able to take a pot or tp so make sure that if you hex, you'll focus him really quick impale coil nova